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  • smuggymba
    09-10 08:36 AM
    I understand what you said, but just to consider the off numbers published by dos

    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf


    EB2 total pending 34325
    EB3 total pending 136325


    2010-2011 quota EB1+EB2 ( 85343 )
    less eb2 " " 34325
    --------------------------------------------
    " " 51018 trickeling down for EB3 Worldwide?
    2010-2011 quota EB3 ( 42671 )
    less eb3 - 136325
    --------------------------------------------
    42636 ( eb3 pending left over from above )
    2011-2012 quota eb1+eb2+eb3 128013

    So, with above math Eb2 will be current by next year, and eb3 will be by end of 2012?

    above math is based on
    inaccurate numbers given by DOS?
    assuming no new applicants applying.
    Hope I am correct! :)


    Hi Sanju-dba,
    In the predictions thread, I saw the members saying there are 100-120K people waiting in EB2 from now until 2010. You're saying it's 34K...can u post this in the predictions thread so that other members can analyze the numbers. Thanks.





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  • dontcareanymore
    07-29 01:35 PM
    please let me know how to close the thread. I do not want divide IV.

    Don't worry.You have no chance ...........(..........of dividing IV)
    IV is ROCK SOLID :):)
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    No...... Just joking.
    It is already divided and you have no chance of dividing it any further. Look at EB2 Vs. EB3 posts with I am better than you attitude and EBX-I vs ROW posts.

    Your thread is just a punching bag :) All had fun giving their 2 cents and this is my 2 cents.





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  • tikka
    06-12 10:21 AM
    Here is a link ...that does talk about issues related to legal immigration ...IV is also mentioned in this article

    http://www.ibnlive.com/news/world/06_2007/bush-gives-indian-immigrants-hope-42746.html

    Thank you





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  • calgirl
    07-12 04:55 PM
    Where does it say in the bulletin that it will move in the next bulletin?

    QUOTE=sammas;1968386]Sorry to say this but 1st March is not considered. Hopefully your PD will be current in next Sep 2010 bulletin. Good Luck![/QUOTE]



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  • smuggymba
    09-10 12:53 PM
    My PD is March 2010 EB2 so i'm not even in this race yet but help me in understanding one thing.

    Was EB3 current in July 2007? If yes, I'm assuming atleast 95% EB3 folks have EAD and their spouse can work. The really big problem in post 2007 EB3.

    Since dates were current in July 2007, Eb2 and Eb3 can atleast enjoy EAD/spouse working benefits. Why do ppl complain when they have EAD etc whose PD is before 2007.





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  • logiclife
    04-23 05:29 PM
    Everyone, calm down.

    Gautam: We understand that you are not an IV member and you attended a public event and asked the congressman a question and got a dissatisfactory answer to your question.

    It was a public event and it was well within your rights to ask your question. Fine.

    Here is the issue with your questions and expectation and also with expectation of other members who have been thoroughly dissatisfied on Saturday:

    1). Need to temper expectations, lawmakers are not really experts in Immigration law or any law...they set policy...they dont practice law everyday...

    Firstly, your question is such that it is beyond congressman's capacity to answer. You asked about the non-immigrant intent tied to the student visa and you said that it doesnt make sense to have that non-immigrant intent on student visas and its prevent you from getting a degree from your school where you are getting/got admission.

    You have to realize that these are highly technical issues and no Congressman or Senator....NONE...not even Ted Kennedy, not even John McCain (they have spent good part of this decade coming up with comprehensive bill last year) would understand deeply technical legal issues like "Non Immigrant Intent" in the law and the bills. NOT EVEN JOHN CORNYN who has spend huge time on skilled immigration and whose previous bill actually has stuff to remove the non-immigrant intent from student visa adjudication in consulates. Lawmakers work at policy level and THEIR STAFF works the details. The kind of question you asked was something that you can get answers on from a staff member. And not just any staff member, it has to the the JUDICIARY COUNSEL of the congressman or the Senator. Otherwise, they would not know the different between H1 and F1 and the difference between GC quota (140,000) and H1 Quota (65,000).

    Congress passes thousands of bills each year. Each day in session, Congressmen vote on over a dozen bills. For each bill they vote, they get a 5-10 line brief description. So never expect lawmakers to know your issues in that great details.

    2). Need to have a polite tone.

    This point I am making is not just pertinent to you (Gautam), but to everyone. When you are dealing with a lawmaker so closely involved with a 700-page bill of which 98% is dealing with sparing the lives of 11 million illegals who are living in fear of deportation, prison, raids and separation from their children, you have to be VERY VERY CAREFUL when asking for things like "I am not getting GC therefore, I cant get promotion", "I am making only 80K and with GC I can make 120K", "I cannot go to Ivy league school for next 2 years"... Not that these arent legit issues. They are. But when a person sees questions from the undocumented community, some of them were breaking into tears when asking questions...your questions and your tone has to be very careful. I dont know if anyone stayed thru the end. I and Pratik were there till the end and we talked to Congressman after the crowd dispersed and there were just some reporters, organizers etc at around 7:45 PM. Some questions towards the end,...people were breaking into tears when asking..."my son cannot go to school anywhere next year when he grads from highschool"..."When are the raids going to stop"...etc. These guys are plucked from their homes and workplace and their Kids actually end up on the streets as it recently happened in New Bedford, Massachussetts. Kids were unable to go home (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/03/07/children_stranded_after_immigration_raid/)beause their parents didnt come from work (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/03/07/350_are_held_in_immigration_raid/)and there wasnt anyone from social services notified about the parents being picked up by Immigration enforcement.

    In the environment, when children possibly become homeless/lost/kidnapped because their parents are in jail suddenly, (read news articles on raids in New Bedford Massachussets (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/03/07/children_stranded_after_immigration_raid/)), IF YOU DONT HAVE A VERY SOFT AND POLITE TONE and a very compelling story, your point is going to backfire and you will risk looking like RICH SPOILED AND PRIVILEGED KIDS who ALREADY HAVE LEGAL STATUS and ALREADY HAVE PATH TO CITIZENSHIP and are yelling on top of their lungs to speed that up.

    Your case is legit, not doubt, but WHEN IN CONTRAST with undocumented, you run the risk of looking like snobs and elitists. That's just how it is. And lawmakers dont exactly get goosebumps when you name-drop words like "Harvard", "Stanford" and "Berkeley" and "U Penn". Its not like they are going to go weak on their knees when you say "I went to harvard and how dare you dont get me a Greencard. I will go back to India/China". It doesnt really make a difference to them. They have people WORKING FOR THEM in their staff who went to Ivy league schools.

    And frankly, Gautam, your tone of asking the question was..."what are you doing about this...you dont understand what you are losing , you will lose us to India and China and France"....is THE WRONG TONE. It was nowhere near polite or calm. It was pretty "WTF" attitude like you said we should all use, and IT WONT WORK. If shouting out, yelling, soundbites and rhetoric would have worked, we would have gotten the job done a long time ago.
    Merits of the issue and argument is one thing...no matter how strong your point is YOU HAVE TO be POLITE and be FRIENDLY and ask nicely. Otherwise you will really get nothing back from your lawmakers.

    Its not like you are going to threaten to vote against them. YOU HAVE NO VOTING power for next 15 years.



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  • miapplicant
    09-11 11:00 AM
    http://www.asianjournal.com/?c=201&a=29863


    "In a move to fix America�s broken immigration system, the House Subcommittee on Immigration approved H.R. 5882, a bipartisan legislation introduced by Representatives Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) and James Sensenbrenner (R-WI)."

    Thanks. Given the various posts on this, I hope this is true true true...:p





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  • go_gc_way
    01-15 11:13 PM
    Bumping /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\



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  • pcs
    11-10 09:06 PM
    Guys..

    I have been watching and participating in this drama for a long time....

    We must go to court for the correct interpretation and enforcement of UNUSED VISA from ROW / undersubscribed catagories. THERE IS NO CASE FOR EVEN WAITING FOR ONE QUARTER. 20,000 VISA are available unused at a given time, they should ALL be immediately allocated to the guys in the Q.

    This will benefit all EB 2 / EB 3

    We really should not have any debate about loosing the case etc... Let us try and loose the case... At least , we will have the satisfaction of trying...

    If your are with me please respond to this thread

    We MUST take the advantage of low VISA usage in this recession and cut the line by tens of thousand





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  • mbawa2574
    02-15 04:33 PM
    Well, I do have a vested interest in maintaining status quo, at least with regard to the per country caps. :)
    But, working in one of the Valley companies, I see a lot of people from India and China who just don't mix with rest of the people, say, from Poland or Germany or France or Iran. US (the whole government, including USCIS) likes the idea of 'Melting pot' when it comes to immigration. When you melt a lot of metals with each other, you don't end up with a fragmented alloy, since you've capped the amount of each metal in your pot. That is how you get 'Little Italy's and 'China Town's and the latest one in San Jose, CA: 'Saigon Business district'

    You are blaming Indians and Chinese as a community to be racists. I will rather not mix with people who think like you. It is your perception, not a chinese or Indian problem.



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  • eilsoe
    03-08 04:24 PM
    right, march 10th :lol:

    sorry.. had my head somewhere else at the time... :sure:





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  • smuggymba
    09-10 08:36 AM
    I understand what you said, but just to consider the off numbers published by dos

    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf


    EB2 total pending 34325
    EB3 total pending 136325


    2010-2011 quota EB1+EB2 ( 85343 )
    less eb2 " " 34325
    --------------------------------------------
    " " 51018 trickeling down for EB3 Worldwide?
    2010-2011 quota EB3 ( 42671 )
    less eb3 - 136325
    --------------------------------------------
    42636 ( eb3 pending left over from above )
    2011-2012 quota eb1+eb2+eb3 128013

    So, with above math Eb2 will be current by next year, and eb3 will be by end of 2012?

    above math is based on
    inaccurate numbers given by DOS?
    assuming no new applicants applying.
    Hope I am correct! :)


    Hi Sanju-dba,
    In the predictions thread, I saw the members saying there are 100-120K people waiting in EB2 from now until 2010. You're saying it's 34K...can u post this in the predictions thread so that other members can analyze the numbers. Thanks.



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  • anurakt
    01-17 02:08 PM
    Well Said Pappu, if you ask for people to ask IV for updates 20 times a day, we will get thousands of contributions ...but when it comes to money to support the cause .....all these beggers (yes beggers ! ) don't show the faces. These people call themselves high skilled , I call them high skilled beggers ...they want everything without contributing a cent .... shame on you beggers ... Please go back to your country , you won't get GC.....:mad: :mad:

    Shameless creatures, not even a single guy came and blasted me out for such comments ..! This means that I am telling the truth. You guys don't even have any self dignity left to come and face off with me.
    :mad: :mad:





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  • BumbleBee
    08-15 04:11 PM
    Shocking !!!! :eek:

    Not really, Everyone is numb after July Visa Bulletin fiasco. Sep bulletin is better than expected, better than August atleast ( there are some dates in each cell, instead of 'U' all over the map ).

    Lets hope for Oct bulletin to bring a little bit of smile :rolleyes:

    Beeeee



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  • sroyc
    10-20 02:26 PM
    Since we cannot vote and influence the outcome of the presidential elections in any way, let's focus on what we can influence - legislation related to EB immigration.

    I don't think either Obama or McCain will reject relief for EB immigrants stuck in the backlog. The challenge for us is (and has always been) getting such a bill through the House and the Senate. Let's try to figure out how we can do that instead of bickering over something we don't have any control over.





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  • logiclife
    01-31 02:05 PM
    If one gets an H-1B approval now (Jan/Feb), can he start working right away? Or does he have to wait till the start of fiscal year, October?

    The H1 approval will have the validity dates that begin on Oct 1 2007, which means that she cannot work before that.



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  • nojoke
    03-01 04:03 AM
    Commodity prices like crudeoil,steel,wood used in construction are at lowest since a decade.The commodity prices will not go back to 2006 levels not in near future,so already constructed houses have lost almost 70% value in them.Bail out or another help will not sort this issue.Only free market has to solve the issue.For housing to get to 2006 levels there should be huge housing boom in China,India where they have huge populations.People in India are poor so they cant afford a house even if they want one.China wont spend they are intersted in buying US treasuries.So the only option for the bank is to write off these houses.Govt help for home owners will be only a drop in the ocean.

    Very true





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  • vamsi_poondla
    02-13 11:02 PM
    USCIS did not form any new rule to create divide and rule. If we are divided that is because we are thinking of ourselves as ultimate judges of all events and think that our opinion is right.





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  • dkjariwala
    04-08 11:54 PM
    nyte,

    The person was on H1B visa.





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    I only know the basics...

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    reddymjm
    09-10 01:38 PM
    Here is a brief calculation of EB2 Demand till date (Today's Date)
    The total demand till date is ~ 120K which is
    Demand up to Aug 2007 = 45K
    Sep 2007 to Dec 2008 = 16 * 2.5K Perm Month = 40K
    Jan 2009 to Oct 2010 = 22 * 1.5K per month = 33K
    New PD porting after Aug 2007 (Current Eb3 Inventory is 60K till Aug 2007) = 10K
    Total 45 + 40 + 33 + 10 = 128K. This may be inflated but it is atleast 120K.

    By giving these numbers I don�t mean to scare anybody but it�s better to have a tryst with true reality rather than be ignorant. It is better to have an understanding of the backlog rather than feeling bad VB after VB, nothing will change soon because the backlog is so huge.

    If you look at the numbers it is very unlikely that EB2 will literally become current any time soon, the end of the pre-adjudicated numbers is just a tipping point and when this happens anything could happen 1) Make dates current (I personally welcome that atleast everybody gets a chance to file for I485) 2) Keep accepting applications in a controlled manner so as to approve in quarter or year. 3) Grant spillover to EB3 ROW (EB3 ROW backlog is so huge like EB2 - I in the same range 100-120K that the spillover will disappear in no time, also note that EB3 ROW incremental demand is much higher than EB2 ROW).
    The spillover is a happening of the present time when the economy is bad, the moment this changes everything will disappear and there will be no difference between EB2 and EB3 if you belong to a retrogressed country we will all be at 3K Per annum and EB5 contribution if any will be consumed by PD porting which will increase manifold as EB3-I folks waiting for 10 years is simply unacceptable, currently there a 60K folks here just till 2007. I strongly favor porting waiting for 10 years is unacceptable. Also being without EAD / AP is very hard, great that we have a IV campaign initiated for this the efforts in this direction are laudable. Actually as Pappu, Admin2 and others have been saying EB3-EB2 even though may be relevant now is actually meaningless this is relevant only in this temporary phase of time fighting on these lines will not help to attain any objective rather it will kill chances of EB3 friends with later PD to port. The biggest issue is the per country limits which equate talent pools like India and China and give them the same cap as countries which have 1/1000th population, if they cannot be eliminated atleast should be proportionate to population for larger countries and be at 7% for the smaller ones. PS - I have nothing personal against ROW friends.

    If USCIS wants to do another JULY 2007 they never learnt their lession. With the Quarterly/annual quota I dont think USCIS legally can make EB2 current. I hate another JULY 2007 for sure.



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