labogon
07-28 09:50 AM
I ask the same question to my lawyer when i saw your posting about your I_485 without the employer letter. This is his response, I hope this will help answer your question.
__________________________________________________ ____________
Thanks for the information! We included copies of your recent paystubs to meet this requirement. In essence the only 'initial' evidence that is required to get the case accepted are the properly signed forms, the correct filing fee amount, and some information about the basis for the filing. In your case that is the approved labor cert and info about the I-140.
If the Immigration Examiner wants any additional evidence about your eligibility he or she will issue a request for evidence. However in my experience the employer letter is very optional. I don't include it in about half of the cases I file and I have not received a request for it either.
I'll let you know when we get the receipt notices - probably not for another two weeks.
__________________________________________________ _____________
P.s. God bless the forces behind the Immigtration voice. I work as a teacher in an isolated native american reservation. The efforts done by the group to reverse the july visa bulletin decision has benefited a small portion of educators here in new mexico. You've done a great job. Thank you very much! I'll encourage my group here to contribute to keep this website working.
labogon
__________________________________________________ ____________
Thanks for the information! We included copies of your recent paystubs to meet this requirement. In essence the only 'initial' evidence that is required to get the case accepted are the properly signed forms, the correct filing fee amount, and some information about the basis for the filing. In your case that is the approved labor cert and info about the I-140.
If the Immigration Examiner wants any additional evidence about your eligibility he or she will issue a request for evidence. However in my experience the employer letter is very optional. I don't include it in about half of the cases I file and I have not received a request for it either.
I'll let you know when we get the receipt notices - probably not for another two weeks.
__________________________________________________ _____________
P.s. God bless the forces behind the Immigtration voice. I work as a teacher in an isolated native american reservation. The efforts done by the group to reverse the july visa bulletin decision has benefited a small portion of educators here in new mexico. You've done a great job. Thank you very much! I'll encourage my group here to contribute to keep this website working.
labogon
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supers789
03-11 10:57 PM
Thanks for the link... And so sad after all that hype!

Macaca
01-26 08:29 AM
Finally, I understood the purpose of this forum. No, the title is not wrong.
I understand that you are
1. explaining retrogression, and
2. predicting time it will take a person to get GC.
The above are based on
1. applications with USCIS, and
2. USCIS policy to approve GC.
If this is true, it is the first good idea I have seen here. Alisa for president! (Arnold, California Gov, is working on changing rules for naturalized citizens).
I have the following suggestions. I will help after I read everything. Give me some time.
1. Indians are over-represented in IV. Consider the case of a country that is doing better and mention countries that are worst.
2. Write a short paragraph that goes in IV email sales pitch. This has a URL to this complete report.
3. This complete report has URL to USCIS data.
4. We work on similar report (with URLs) on lobbying effort and funding level of anti-immigration organizations.
USCIS numbers and rules are not the only factors against us. The anti-immigrants are a much bigger factor.
5. IV email sales pitch has a para with URL on
a. explaining retrogression (this report).
b. lobbying effort and funding level of opponents (next report).
c. IV's experience with legislation.
d. BEGing for contributions.
6. KISS principle baby: Keep It Simple, Stupid. Too much gymnastics in IV writeups.
I understand that you are
1. explaining retrogression, and
2. predicting time it will take a person to get GC.
The above are based on
1. applications with USCIS, and
2. USCIS policy to approve GC.
If this is true, it is the first good idea I have seen here. Alisa for president! (Arnold, California Gov, is working on changing rules for naturalized citizens).
I have the following suggestions. I will help after I read everything. Give me some time.
1. Indians are over-represented in IV. Consider the case of a country that is doing better and mention countries that are worst.
2. Write a short paragraph that goes in IV email sales pitch. This has a URL to this complete report.
3. This complete report has URL to USCIS data.
4. We work on similar report (with URLs) on lobbying effort and funding level of anti-immigration organizations.
USCIS numbers and rules are not the only factors against us. The anti-immigrants are a much bigger factor.
5. IV email sales pitch has a para with URL on
a. explaining retrogression (this report).
b. lobbying effort and funding level of opponents (next report).
c. IV's experience with legislation.
d. BEGing for contributions.
6. KISS principle baby: Keep It Simple, Stupid. Too much gymnastics in IV writeups.
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webr
07-12 07:09 PM
cut-off dates are equal for both India & china. Does that mean that both are going to jump in August bulletin? Hope they move it further to atleast Dec 2006.
Stop being selfish first , you will get automatically then.... You wanted to move dates , since your PD Is Dec 2006 ... There are tons waiting after your dates. Just consider others.
Stop being selfish first , you will get automatically then.... You wanted to move dates , since your PD Is Dec 2006 ... There are tons waiting after your dates. Just consider others.
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GreenCard4US
07-12 11:50 PM
Well said GCBY3000. Since something is going to happen, she wants to project herself as though she put in some effort. A few months back when I made a phone appointment with her, she was not at all helpfull. All she kept saying was, we can do it for you for so many $$$. It was all about money, money and money. I honestly doubt her intentions.

kaisersose
09-18 11:15 PM
I had to reluctantly stay away from the rally due to a brand new baby at home, but I sure hope to be part of future efforts.
And I totally agree that Legal is the keyword. Most Americans are not clear about Legals v Illegals and lump them together. Of course, some just do not care and do not see a need to differentiate between the two. They would just like to see Asian and South Asian folks get out of the country.
And I also am not in favor of asking for an increase in GC quota. Instead I am in favor of not counting spouse and kids against the quota. This itself will effectively inrease the quota to over 350K per year. Directly asking for quota increase always leaves a bad taste for skeptics and will slow down any possible action.
And I totally agree that Legal is the keyword. Most Americans are not clear about Legals v Illegals and lump them together. Of course, some just do not care and do not see a need to differentiate between the two. They would just like to see Asian and South Asian folks get out of the country.
And I also am not in favor of asking for an increase in GC quota. Instead I am in favor of not counting spouse and kids against the quota. This itself will effectively inrease the quota to over 350K per year. Directly asking for quota increase always leaves a bad taste for skeptics and will slow down any possible action.
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sugaur
01-17 10:27 AM
Key to happiness and peace of mind is to determine weather the things bothering you are under your control or not. The exact date when you will get your GC is not under your control, so worrying about it is useless. On the other hand making sure your applications are filed properly and in a timely manner is under your control. Similarly, getting laid off is not under your control. On the other hand it is under your control to constatntly try and acquire new skills that will make you more appealing to employers.
For things which are beyond our control, there is no point worrying. For things which are under our control, no point worrying either BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDER OUR CONTROL!!!
I found this little pearl of philosophy in a little book about the Roman Slave Epictecus who went on to become one of the leading Stoic philosophers.
For things which are beyond our control, there is no point worrying. For things which are under our control, no point worrying either BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDER OUR CONTROL!!!
I found this little pearl of philosophy in a little book about the Roman Slave Epictecus who went on to become one of the leading Stoic philosophers.
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amitjoey
03-23 10:27 AM
There are people from northern california going to DC. Please join IV's NOR CAL group and you will get in touch with all of them
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sanjeev_2004
11-20 09:40 PM
My H1-B expires in another 8 months. I got my Labor cleared (EB-2) in 2 months through Perm and just finished applying for I-140. Before february, if i don't get my I-140 cleared i will go through Premium and apply for H1-B 3 year extension.
Getting my H1-B extended for 3 years is my goal. Once this happens, i will look elsewhere for a new job and start over GC process again hoping thta by then labor laws improve.
I have not dreamed/hoped to get GC. I am only hoping to stay in this country as long as possible.
I still don't understand why people are frustrated with delays in GC?
Why should you even stress yourself too much about this GC. Just enjoy the life and move on.
thanks
I agree with you. Only sick ppl are frustrated with delay in GC.
Getting my H1-B extended for 3 years is my goal. Once this happens, i will look elsewhere for a new job and start over GC process again hoping thta by then labor laws improve.
I have not dreamed/hoped to get GC. I am only hoping to stay in this country as long as possible.
I still don't understand why people are frustrated with delays in GC?
Why should you even stress yourself too much about this GC. Just enjoy the life and move on.
thanks
I agree with you. Only sick ppl are frustrated with delay in GC.
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angelfire76
05-26 05:47 PM
Yeah CBP is made up of the most xenophobic people I've met. Even on the Canadian border, as Mexican border it's understandable.
If Mexicans get ill-treated then the Hispanic groups will yell "racism", but if we do, our fellow PRs and US citizens will look down at us from their perch and say "Follow the law/process". No wonder it's open season on us.
If Mexicans get ill-treated then the Hispanic groups will yell "racism", but if we do, our fellow PRs and US citizens will look down at us from their perch and say "Follow the law/process". No wonder it's open season on us.
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GreeNever
06-13 11:22 AM
Folks! MSNBC is organizing a gut check on the immigration issue (though this appears to be on issues related to illegal immigration). It's a message board inviting opinions on immigration with an expert panel set to reply to the meesages posted. Eventually, messages will be short-listed for publishing. We may be able to make an opportunity out of this.
Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18826755/
Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18826755/
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Green.Tech
03-05 05:16 PM
There should have been one more option -
5. I will be buying a house now since I am on H-1B, and also have a pending I-485 and approved EAD
There may be many like me who would vote for the above. But I guess this would probably be detrimental to what this poll is trying to achieve?
That is exactly what I mentioned in one of my previous posts in this thread...but it conveniently got ignored :)
5. I will be buying a house now since I am on H-1B, and also have a pending I-485 and approved EAD
There may be many like me who would vote for the above. But I guess this would probably be detrimental to what this poll is trying to achieve?
That is exactly what I mentioned in one of my previous posts in this thread...but it conveniently got ignored :)
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Imigrait
07-11 05:28 PM
Can you provide the source of this info? a link or something?
Here's your link
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4252.html
Look at Section E. I have also pasted the text below.
E. EMPLOYMENT SECOND PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY
There have been questions raised regarding the way numbers have been provided to the China and India in the Employment Second preference categories beginning in April. Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act states that if total demand for visas in an Employment preference category is insufficient to use all available visa numbers in that category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual per-country limit. (For example: If the second preference annual limit were 40,000, number use by �All Other Countries� were estimated to be only 25,000, and the China/India combined number use based on their per-country limits were 6,000, then there would be 9,000 numbers unused. Those 9,000 numbers could then be made available to China and India applicants without regard to their per-country limits.)
Based on the informaiton available, it was been determined that the demand from �All Other Countries� for Second preference numbers, plus the amount of numbers available under China and India Second preference per-country limit, would be insufficient to utilize all available numbers under the annual limit for this category. Therefore, pursuant to Section 202(a)(5) of the Act, the unused numbers have been made available to China and India Second preference applicants. Since Section 203(e)(1) of the Act requires that such unused numbers be made available strictly in priority date order, the China and India applicants have been subject to the identical cut-off date. As there are more Employment Second preference applicants from India and the Indian applicants may have earlier priority dates, it is likely that Indian applicants will receive a larger portion of the available numbers than Chinese applicants.
It should be noted that the Employment Second preference category is "Current" for all countries except China and India. If at any point it appears that demand from �All Other Countries� would utilize all available numbers, then an adjustment would be made to the China/India cut-off date. Therefore, providing the unused numbers to China and India in no way disadvantages applicants from any other country, and helps to insure that the worldwide annual limit can be reached.
Here's your link
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4252.html
Look at Section E. I have also pasted the text below.
E. EMPLOYMENT SECOND PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY
There have been questions raised regarding the way numbers have been provided to the China and India in the Employment Second preference categories beginning in April. Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act states that if total demand for visas in an Employment preference category is insufficient to use all available visa numbers in that category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual per-country limit. (For example: If the second preference annual limit were 40,000, number use by �All Other Countries� were estimated to be only 25,000, and the China/India combined number use based on their per-country limits were 6,000, then there would be 9,000 numbers unused. Those 9,000 numbers could then be made available to China and India applicants without regard to their per-country limits.)
Based on the informaiton available, it was been determined that the demand from �All Other Countries� for Second preference numbers, plus the amount of numbers available under China and India Second preference per-country limit, would be insufficient to utilize all available numbers under the annual limit for this category. Therefore, pursuant to Section 202(a)(5) of the Act, the unused numbers have been made available to China and India Second preference applicants. Since Section 203(e)(1) of the Act requires that such unused numbers be made available strictly in priority date order, the China and India applicants have been subject to the identical cut-off date. As there are more Employment Second preference applicants from India and the Indian applicants may have earlier priority dates, it is likely that Indian applicants will receive a larger portion of the available numbers than Chinese applicants.
It should be noted that the Employment Second preference category is "Current" for all countries except China and India. If at any point it appears that demand from �All Other Countries� would utilize all available numbers, then an adjustment would be made to the China/India cut-off date. Therefore, providing the unused numbers to China and India in no way disadvantages applicants from any other country, and helps to insure that the worldwide annual limit can be reached.
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kutra
03-03 06:36 PM
Folks,
Please help me in refining the message: I plan to send to some major media.
*****************************
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are an association of highly skilled immigrants, waiting for our permanent residency status. There are approximately one million such people in this situation.
Before we proceed to make our point, we would like you to consider the following facts regarding ourselves:
� Average age: 30-35 years
� Average years of stay in the USA (all legally): 7 years
� Average legal status in the USA: Final stage of the green card (called I-485 stage) and posses employment authorization document (EAD), renewable every year, indefinitely till one gets his green card.
� Average Salary: $75K+
� Average net worth: 100K-400K (mostly liquid)
� Average occupations: Information technology, Doctors and Financial Analysts
� Average education level: At least undergraduate
� Average credit history: Excellent
As mentioned earlier, we are in the final stage of our green card process and there are very few rejections (<1%) at this stage. It means that we would eventually get our green cards but it may take several years. Even though the chances of the rejection is very low but most people, out of fear, have been postponing any major investment decisions, like buying a house or a new car, in other words, living conservatively. In addition, due to the turmoil in the market, several of us, in spite of our excellent credit history, income and high liquid net worth may not qualify for loans as EAD is valid for only one year.
Our organization has been urging the government to fix the green card process or at the very least relax the hassles of the yearly renewal ordeal for EADs. Either of these things will bring certainty in our life and prompt some of us to take some big decisions.
We are writing to you with a hope that our situation will be highlighted and our intellectual and financial potential contribution to this country is appreciated.
We conducted a small poll on one of the websites used for organizing ourselves. Almost 60% of the respondents are postponing the decision because of the situation they are in. The poll can be found at http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17660
Yours truly,
XYZ
Might not be extrapolation, but gross misrepresentation. Have you taken a poll or do you have any data to justify all the numbers you are including in the e-mail? If yes, then include the links for that in the letter, otherwise no one is going to believe you.
Why, I can say, I have 10 billion dollars which I will donate to USCIS to improve their system if I get a GC right now.
Please help me in refining the message: I plan to send to some major media.
*****************************
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are an association of highly skilled immigrants, waiting for our permanent residency status. There are approximately one million such people in this situation.
Before we proceed to make our point, we would like you to consider the following facts regarding ourselves:
� Average age: 30-35 years
� Average years of stay in the USA (all legally): 7 years
� Average legal status in the USA: Final stage of the green card (called I-485 stage) and posses employment authorization document (EAD), renewable every year, indefinitely till one gets his green card.
� Average Salary: $75K+
� Average net worth: 100K-400K (mostly liquid)
� Average occupations: Information technology, Doctors and Financial Analysts
� Average education level: At least undergraduate
� Average credit history: Excellent
As mentioned earlier, we are in the final stage of our green card process and there are very few rejections (<1%) at this stage. It means that we would eventually get our green cards but it may take several years. Even though the chances of the rejection is very low but most people, out of fear, have been postponing any major investment decisions, like buying a house or a new car, in other words, living conservatively. In addition, due to the turmoil in the market, several of us, in spite of our excellent credit history, income and high liquid net worth may not qualify for loans as EAD is valid for only one year.
Our organization has been urging the government to fix the green card process or at the very least relax the hassles of the yearly renewal ordeal for EADs. Either of these things will bring certainty in our life and prompt some of us to take some big decisions.
We are writing to you with a hope that our situation will be highlighted and our intellectual and financial potential contribution to this country is appreciated.
We conducted a small poll on one of the websites used for organizing ourselves. Almost 60% of the respondents are postponing the decision because of the situation they are in. The poll can be found at http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17660
Yours truly,
XYZ
Might not be extrapolation, but gross misrepresentation. Have you taken a poll or do you have any data to justify all the numbers you are including in the e-mail? If yes, then include the links for that in the letter, otherwise no one is going to believe you.
Why, I can say, I have 10 billion dollars which I will donate to USCIS to improve their system if I get a GC right now.
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02-15 03:08 PM
Exactly, And how many from South America? 30% of the population is going to be hispanic by 2050.
Perhaps your number is not based on legal immigration. It might reach this number if you add up the illegal ones, and that is why the gov. is building the walls to stop them enter at borders and try to find the illegal ones and send them out.
Perhaps your number is not based on legal immigration. It might reach this number if you add up the illegal ones, and that is why the gov. is building the walls to stop them enter at borders and try to find the illegal ones and send them out.
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memyselfandus
09-20 11:07 AM
I have the domain...ready to transfer: if IV core needs it...
I was just checking the domain name availability. legalimmigrationvoice.com and .org got taken yesterday. Hopefully its the core or someone supporting member of IV.
I was just checking the domain name availability. legalimmigrationvoice.com and .org got taken yesterday. Hopefully its the core or someone supporting member of IV.
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06-10 08:29 PM
Sent.
Legal
07-04 09:10 PM
[QUOTE=nixstor]Excellent analysis but it does have flaws
I am sure you might have read this from murthy's website (http://www.murthy.com/news/n_dosebn.html) or not, but DOS/CA/VO officials shared this piece with them. As per the above article, final quarter quota should not open until Jul 2nd. I understand that agencies can implement and interpret certain stuff, but you cannot interpret and implement one thing on Jun 13th and another on Jul 2nd. If its written into law, that the quarterly allocation is a must, USCIS is in violation and DOS/CA/VO as well for not policing them of visa number usage.
"Essentially, the numbers are spread out during the first three quarters and whatever is left is available during the last quarter"
On reading the Murthy article it appears that the biggest mistake USCIS committed was using up the visa numbers before the 4th qtr began on 7/2/07.
USCIS did it other way around...desparately rushed to use up the numbers before the 4th qtr began....only explanation is to avoid doing additional paperwork for the July filers...
I am sure you might have read this from murthy's website (http://www.murthy.com/news/n_dosebn.html) or not, but DOS/CA/VO officials shared this piece with them. As per the above article, final quarter quota should not open until Jul 2nd. I understand that agencies can implement and interpret certain stuff, but you cannot interpret and implement one thing on Jun 13th and another on Jul 2nd. If its written into law, that the quarterly allocation is a must, USCIS is in violation and DOS/CA/VO as well for not policing them of visa number usage.
"Essentially, the numbers are spread out during the first three quarters and whatever is left is available during the last quarter"
On reading the Murthy article it appears that the biggest mistake USCIS committed was using up the visa numbers before the 4th qtr began on 7/2/07.
USCIS did it other way around...desparately rushed to use up the numbers before the 4th qtr began....only explanation is to avoid doing additional paperwork for the July filers...
ramaonline
12-26 01:40 PM
there is no concept of employee transfer after 140 approval. once u get 140 approved u can get 3 year incremental h1 extension due to retrogression- portability is also allowed during these 3 years - so u can join any employer. (h1 transfer) also note that if ur current employer does not revoke the 140 u can retain the PD and use it for a new gc application with a new employer, else u must start the LC-140 etc process once again.


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